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∂26-NOV-75  0510	S,LES
Samet is still running big compute-bound jobs in the early morning.
JBR claims that the drawing program doesn't run decently as a result.
Unless you believe that Samet is doing something good, I think we ought
to request that he go away, or at least substantially reduce his
load.

Another hanger-on is YYY.  I have no idea why he is still running here.
Do you?
∂20-NOV-75  0153	S,LES
Any reaction to the Somalvico proposition?
∂19-NOV-75  2036	FTP: host CMU  
From: SIGART(X180LE03)@CMUB
Date: 19 Nov 1975 2336 EST
Subject: your note of 15-Nov.
To:   JMC@SU-AI
cc:   SIGART, LES@SU-AI
- - - -
Thank you for the note re Minker's letter and also for the postscript
re I. Goldstein's draft notice.  I would like to print your note
along with Minker's letter and the letter from the Goldstein's -- do
you have any objections to that?  If you do, or you if you would like
to expand on it, please let me know within a week or so -- we hope to
go to press by around November 17.

thanx again for the note,
	Lee Erman

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∂19-NOV-75  2036	FTP: host CMU  
From: SIGART(X180LE03)@CMUB
Date: 19 Nov 1975 2336 EST
Subject: your note of 15-Nov.
To:   JMC@SU-AI
cc:   SIGART, LES@SU-AI
- - - -
Thank you for the note re Minker's letter and also for the postscript
re I. Goldstein's draft notice.  I would like to print your note
along with Minker's letter and the letter from the Goldstein's -- do
you have any objections to that?  If you do, or you if you would like
to expand on it, please let me know within a week or so -- we hope to
go to press by around November 17.

thanx again for the note,
	Lee Erman

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∂19-NOV-75  0439	S,LES
To:   JMC
CC:   PAW   
I'm trying to organize a register of reference materials owned by people
in the Lab.  See Page 1 of REFER[BIB,DOC] for specifics.

If you wish to participate, Patte could organize you entries.
∂19-NOV-75  0057	S,LES
Received phone message about a telegram from Marco Somalvico
requesting permission to come here on a NATO fellowship.  Says their
deadline is Nov. 23.  I don't have the full text, but will pick it
up while I am on campus tomorrow morning (i.e.  this morning).

My recollection of his performance on the earlier two-year stay is that
he published a Comm. ACM article on something unrelated to anything here,
generally had a good time, and contributed nothing to any of our projects.
∂18-NOV-75  2239	VCG,DCL   

                     VERIFICATION GROUP MEETING

                         CORRECTED SCHEDULE
  
Thursday Nov.20 3.00pm:
   R. Cartwright and R. Weyrauch: Problems with Pascal Semantics

Thursday Nov.27, 3.oopm: Thanksgiving!

Thursday Dec.4, 3.oopm:
        John McCarthy: Practical and Theoretical Considerations in
                         Programming Language Design.

(ignore all previous messages!)
∂18-NOV-75  2213	VCG,DCL   
@MEET.MSG[IBM,DCL]
∂04-NOV-75  2322	S,LES
OK, I'll do that if you edit FR[R,LES].
∂21-NOV-75  1748	S,LES
There is a version of the bellnet proposal in BELL[R,LES].  It has
an elaborated scenario on page 3 that reflects my prejudices on the
list of capabilities that ought to be developed first.  See what you think.
∂17-NOV-75  0033	S,LES
Regarding IJCAI, have you decided where to print you review yet?
You could, of course, put it in SIGART Newsletter, but a wider forum
would probably be better.

On the idea of protesting the treatment of Goldstein:  I could suspend
the distribution of free SIGART Newsletters to the USSR, with a
suitable note of explanation.  This would have the beneficial side
effect of saving a few bucks, SIGART funds being low currently.
How does that strike you?
∂15-NOV-75  0328	S,LES	GRIPE Handling
To:   ME, TAG, BPM, ALS, SUPER[S,LES]:;    
This note describes a proposed change in our procedures for handling
GRIPEs and an accompanying change in MAIL that hopefully will not
be very hard to implement.

The problem is that from the viewpoint of the user community, sending
a GRIPE is roughly equivalent to shouting into a hole in the ground,
except that if you choose your hole right you at least get an echo.
Feedback from gripes appears to be the exception rather than the rule.
From the user's standpoint, that is very frustrating.

Admittedly, a lot of gripes are based on ignorance or apparent stupidity,
but even these often convey indirect information about documentation
shortcomings or the need for an education effort.  It isn't necessary
to type a lot in order to provide a response; a small set of standard
response files will handle a large fraction of the cases, e.g.

(Putdown) "You clearly haven't read the relevant documentation.  If
you read it and still don't understand, then please come talk to me
and waste some more of my time."

(Arcane knowledge)  "Your suggestion cannot be implemented for reasons
that are too complicated to describe here.  Please come see me if you
need to know more."

(Subtile evasion)  "Thank you for your suggestion.  We will give it
careful consideration in future implementations of the program."

(Positive indefinite)  "We should take care of that, but with current
priorities, it probably won't be very soon."

(Positive immediate)  "Thank you for calling that to my attention.
I will take care of it right away."


The problem with the current arrangement is apparently NOT that there
is a large volume of gripes to deal with, which may be partly a result
of the way they aren't dealt with.  The reason why so many go unanswered,
especially the stupid ones, is that nobody quite feels responsible
for doing it.

I discussed (or, more accurately, attempted to discuss) the need for
feedback with REG, who as usual started his "Don't try to tell me
how to do my job" act at full volume and didn't settle down for 10
minutes.  In the course of this "discussion" it became clear that
Ralph doesn't wish to either handle most gripes or act as a switch,
to route them to the appropriate person.

JBR happened by and made a suggestion: put the initial switching
function into the GRIPE command by taking a topic and routing the
gripe to the poor soul who is responsible for that topic.  I like
the idea and believe we can use it to deal with more than just
system problems.   For example, if you type "GRIPE", it could
respond with something like the following:

"Future gripes may be entered in the form "GRIPE <topic>".
Please select one of the following topics and type enough characters
to identify it unambiguously.

BUILDING  (temperature, lights, furnishings, cleaning, etc.)
COMPILERS (FAIL, SAIL, FORTRAN, SNOBOL, PALX)
COMPUTER (CPUs, peripherals, terminals, etc.)
DEBUGGERS (RAID, DDT, BAIL)
EDITORS (E, SOS, TECO, ...)
LIST PROCESSORS (LISP 1.6, ILISP, MLISP, ...)
MONITOR (timesharing system)
OFFICE EQUIPMENT (Xerox, Velobind, etc.)
PROCEDURES (X isn't being done right)
TELEPHONES (malfunctions, changes)
TELNET (ARPA net, FTP)
UTILITY PROGRAMS (e.g. COPY, DART, MAIL, SNAIL, SPOOL, XSPOOL)
OTHER   (anything not covered above)

*"

After the person selects a topic, it says "This will be sent to xxx"
then accepts the message and sends it both to the selected person
and to the GRIPE file.

Clearly a lot of these topics cannot be fully handled by a single
person, but he can perform a subswitching function to get it to
the right place and make sure that a response is generated.
I will volunteer to take the PROCEDURES and OTHER topics.

We can adjust the topics and recipients as we like to deal with the
flow.  In addition to the modification to GRIPE, the conversion of
MAIL to E format would greatly aid in the message handling process
outlined above.

Well, what do you think of that?
∂13-NOV-75  1216	1,PAW
Bill Leland, ARLO Office, Tressider Union, would like to be added to the
mailing list of announcements for future SENSE seminars.
∂12-NOV-75  2110	IBM,DCL   
                     VERIFICATION GROUP MEETING
Thursday Nov.13 3.00pm:
        R. Cartwright: Problems with Pascal and its Semantics

Thursday Nov.20, 3.oopm:
        John McCarthy: Practical and Theoretical Considerations in
                         Programming Language Design.
∂12-NOV-75  1646	1,TOB
Rybak did send a letter before IJCAI.
I remember some hesitation on your part,
and I wonder whether you want to relate
this to the Goldstein incident?
(Rybak is from Kiev)
Tom
∂12-NOV-75  1638	1,TOB
What do you want to do about the invitation
which Rybak requested to visit the lab?
Tom
∂11-NOV-75  0314	100,100: REM @ AMET 
	I believe you are the person who has voiced the philosophy
that side effects are not important, the only important thing in a
computation is what is outputted at the top level?? The continued
fraction and continued logarithm algorithms that I am working on
with Gosper offer the possibility of directly implementing this.
Suppose the user has a FORMAT statement in FORTRAN, or the equivalent
in SAIL or whatever, which specifies the output field of some datum
to be a certain number of characters long.  The continued-mumble
can be set up to compute exactly that many characters, and being
output-driven only those intermediate results that are needed to
compute the output will ever be actually computed.  (Of course,
on an interactive system, you might start with one or two digits
per output datum and ask for more digits in any particular datum
as you choose, at which point the system would squeeze out the
new digit you requested, doing only as much internal squeezing
as was needed to compute it, and if interval-data was specified
for input it would request more accurate input at exactly those
points where needed.)

∂30-OCT-75  1746	FTP: host ISI  
Date: 30 OCT 1975 1744-PST
From: RUSSELL at USC-ISI
Subject: AI Program Plan
To:   LES at SU-AI
cc:   RUSSELL, BLUE

Les,
	I still haven't received the natural language milestones
for the AI program plan from Stanford.  Please give me your comments on this
subject as soon as possible.

	Thanks

	Dave
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∂02-NOV-75  2316	S,LES
Is anything happening on the Natural Language Milestone front?
Also, did you send Russell something earlier relating to his AI Plan?

∂06-NOV-75  1014	1,HVA
Sponsored Projects informed me this a.m. that NASA has approved
proposal and $45,000 will be forthcoming in about 3 weeks.
∂05-NOV-75  1057	FTP: host RAND 
M E M O R A N D U M                 5 Nov 1975

To:     F. Corbato, J. Markowitz, J.McCarthy, M. Pirtle,
        T. Stockham, I. Sutherland, B. Woods

From:   Peter Weiner (WEINER @ RAND-RCC)

Copies: Hilda Bankert

Subject:  Computing Resources Meeting

--------

As a means of reviewing the issues raised in our report as well
as considering other long-term options open to IPTO in the area
of computer resources, Dave Russell has scheduled a meeting at the
Rand Washington Office on 21 Nov 75.

To structure the meeting to some extent he has asked various IPTO
program managers to chair sessions which address each recommendation.
In addition he has proposed to have a general discussion at the
end to probe other computer resource options not covered by the
report which should be considered.

If your schedule will permit, I would ask each of you to attend and
to contribute your views on this important matter.

The meeting will begin at 9:30 AM on Friday 21 November 1975 at the
Rand Washington Office, 2100 "M" Street, N.W., Washington, D.C. 20037.

Please advise me of your plans.

--------

∂04-NOV-75  0914	1,HVA
Mrs. Chertoff, Cttee. for Concerned Scientists, called at 9:05 a.m.,
and is very anxious to speak to you. The collect tel. no. to return
call is (212)679-643l.I've put note in your office, but this is in
case you log in from somewhere else.
∂03-NOV-75  2131	S,LES
There is a draft Formal Reasoning section for the Annual Report in FR[r,LES]
∂31-OCT-75  1529	2,JH 
John, I need a story for the campus report by Thursday, November 6.
It would then appear in the Campus Report of November 12.  That's 
cutting it pretty close.  If you, Felix Bloch and John Connolly can't
get together on it, then you should write it and get their agreement on
it.  You might also think about how you would like to approach the Stanford
Daily about SENSE.  I will see to it that the meeting appears in the Daily's
"Once around the Quad".(great bug in mail if you backspace one too many it gives
what youre seeing above)  Let me know if you don't want to write a story so
I can take it off my worry stack.
				Jim
∂30-OCT-75  1746	FTP: host ISI  
Date: 30 OCT 1975 1744-PST
From: RUSSELL at USC-ISI
Subject: AI Program Plan
To:   LES at SU-AI
cc:   RUSSELL, BLUE

Les,
	I still haven't received the natural language milestones
for the AI program plan from Stanford.  Please give me your comments on this
subject as soon as possible.

	Thanks

	Dave
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∂29-OCT-75  2357	100,100: jmc   
call Gunkel about Gilfillan
∂29-OCT-75  2147	S,LES
I recently wrote a Sail program called POKE.SAI[M,LES] which you
might want to use occasionally.  It looks at disk areas, compares
with the phone lists, and shows peculiarities of three types:

1)  legitimate people who have no PPN or who haven't logged in for quite awhile
    (cutoff date is requested at the beginning of the run; default is a month ago);

2)  people whose accounts were flushed this year, but who have been running
    since the cutoff date;

3)  outlaws.

For each such person, it shows the date and time of last logout.
Just say "EX POKE[M,LES]".
∂27-OCT-75  1018	L,HJS @ NBST   
John,

This  note  contains  several  questions,  comments, and answers to
questions you raised this summer prior to my leaving.

1.    You mentioned to me that Goto, in Japan,  had  implemented  a
LISP  system  using  hashing.   In the meantime I have seen several
reports from the University of  Tokyo  referring  to  this  system.
Specifically, there are references to the following two reports:

Goto, E., "Introduction to LISP", bit vol.  6, No.1-No.13, Kyoritsu
Shuppan, Tokyo, 1974-1975.

Goto, E., "Monocopy  and  Associative  Algorithms  in  an  Extended
LISP",  Internal Report, Information Science Laboratory, University
of Tokyo, May 1974.

If you do have these reports I wonder if you would be  kind  enough
to permit me to have a look at them.

2.   Prior to my leaving I gave you a copy of a paper I had written
describing  a Normal Form for LISP programs.  Could you please give
me  some  advice  on  where  I  should  submit  it   for   possible
publication.

3.      I  would like to know if you will be assigning the compiler
writing project in CS206 this quarter.  My proof system is  now  up
at  IMSSS  and  can  be  invoked by use of the command VERIFY.  Tom
Wolpert has aided  in  bringing  it  up.    The  entire  system  is
compiled  and  runs  quite  fast  so that there is no need to worry
about execution time.   Will your students generate  LAP  code  for
ILISP  or  for  LISP 1.6.   This information is necessary since the
LAP formats are slightly different.     If code is being  generated
for  ILISP,  then an appropriate flag must be set in the system.  A
manual for using the system is available on my  disk  area  and  is
known  as PROVE.PUB[L,HJS]. It is in PUB format, so it will have to
be compiled with PUB and the output obtained from the corresponding
XGP  file.   In the near future, time permitting, I will attempt to
produce a more substantive manual which will demonstrate the use of
the system in debugging programs.

I have also included provisions in the verification system that  is
running  at  IMSSS  for recording information about each use of the
system.      I believe  that  this  would  yield  some  interesting
information.  I am particularly interested in the complexity of the
programs that are presented to the system  for  proof.      Another
equally  promising  set of data is the type of errors that are made
by students and the success that the system has  in  detecting  and
pinpointing  them.    Examination of subsequent runs can lead to an
evaluation of the systems use in aiding the debugging of compilers.
This can be most easily seen by determining if the errors that have
been pinpointed by  the  system  are  removed  from  the  erroneous
programs,  and  if  the  corrected  programs are resubmitted to the
verification system.   This would be very much along the  lines  of
the  results  that  I  presented  in  the chapter of my thesis that
showed the system in use in debugging  a  function  from  RWWs  FOL
system.

My  plan  of action is as follows:  Once the class starts using the
system, I would log in daily at IMSSS and examine the  current  use
of  the  system.      If this proves to be impractical, then I will
simply sample results.      In order to do  this  I  will  need  an
account  at  IMSSS  and  some  file  space to store these temporary
results.    With respect to the latter, I will speak to Bob Smith.

4.  Prior to my departure, you inquired as to  whether  or  not  my
system  could  handle a modification to the following example:  The
function NEXT, given a list and an atom, determines if the  element
is  in  the list.  If yes, then it returns the element that follows
it in the list.  Otherwise NIL is returned  as  the  value  of  the
function.

EXPR NEXT(L,X); 
IF NULL L OR NULL CDR(L) THEN NIL
ELSE IF CAR(L) EQ X THEN CADR(L) 
ELSE NEXT(CDR(L),X); 

The modification is that the recursive call to NEXT is expanded and
in  its  stead  the  body  of  NEXT  is inserted.  Thus one is only
performing one recursive call for every two elements in  the  list.
The modified function is given below:

EXPR NEXT(L,X); 
IF NULL L OR NULL CDR(L) THEN NIL
ELSE IF CAR(L) EQ X THEN CADR(L)
ELSE IF NULL CDR(L) OR NULL CDDR(L) THEN NIL
ELSE IF CADR(L) EQ X THEN CADDR(L)
ELSE NEXT(CDDR(L),X); 

The LISP 1.6 compiler generated the following code sequence for the
function.

(LAP NEXT SUBR) 
	       (PUSH P 1) 
	       (PUSH P 2) 
	       (JUMPE 1 TAG3) 
	       (HRRZ@ 1 1) 
	       (JUMPN 1 TAG2) 
TAG3 	  (MOVEI 1 (QUOTE NIL)) 
       	(JRST 0 TAG1) 
TAG2  	 (HLRZ@ 1 -1 P) 
	       (CAME 1 2) 
	       (JRST 0 TAG4) 
	       (HRRZ@ 1 -1 P) 
	       (HLRZ@ 1 1) 
	       (JRST 0 TAG1) 
TAG4  	 (HRRZ@ 1 -1 P) 
	       (JUMPE 1 TAG6) 
	       (HRRZ@ 1 -1 P) 
	       (HRRZ@ 1 1) 
	       (JUMPN 1 TAG5) 
TAG6  	 (MOVEI 1 (QUOTE NIL)) 
      	 (JRST 0 TAG1) 
TAG5  	 (HRRZ@ 1 -1 P) 
        (HLRZ@ 1 1) 
        (CAME 1 2) 
	       (JRST 0 TAG7) 
	       (HRRZ@ 1 -1 P) 
	       (CALL 1 (E CADR)) 
	       (JRST 0 TAG1) 
TAG7 	  (MOVE 2 0 P) 
      	 (HRRZ@ 1 -1 P) 
      	 (HRRZ@ 1 1) 
      	 (CALL 2 (E NEXT)) 
TAG1 	  (SUB P (C 0 0 2 2)) 
	       (POPJ P) 
       	NIL 

A hand optimized version of  the  above  LAP  program  which  takes
advantage  of  redundant conditions by eliminating their testing is
given below.

(LAP NEXT SUBR)
        (JUMPE 1 DONE)
PC2     (MOVE 1 3)
        (HRRZ 1 0 1)
        (JUMPE 1 DONE)
        (HLRZ 4 0 3)
        (CAIN 4 2)
        (JRST 0 TAG1)
        (MOVE 3 1)
        (HRRZ 1 0 1)
        (JUMPE 1 DONE)
        (HLRZ 4 0 3)
        (CAIE 4 2)
        (JRST 0 PC2)
TAG1    (HLRZ 1 0 1)
DONE    (POPJ P)
        NIL

The optimized encoding has an inner loop of 11 instructions  and  a
total  length  of  15  instructions  while  the  compiler generated
encoding has an inner loop of 23 instructions and a total length of
33  instructions.  Thus the optimized encoding is at least twice as
fast. The proof system  was  able  to  prove  that  both  of  these
encodings  were  indeed  correct.       The  proof for the compiler
generated encoding took 26 seconds while the  proof  for  the  hand
optimized encoding took 27 seconds.

Actually while timing the system on  the  hand  optimized  encoding
several errors were detected.  First of all, the second instruction
should be (MOVE 3 1) rather than (MOVE 1 3).   Furthermore, both of
the  compare  immediate  instructions perform indexing incorrectly.
(CAIN 4 2) and (CAIE 4 2) should be replaced by (CAIN 4  0  2)  and
(CAIE  4 0 2) respectively.  Thus the system can be said to pay for
itself.  The correct encoding is given below:

(LAP NEXT SUBR)
        (JUMPE 1 DONE)
PC2     (MOVE 3 1)
        (HRRZ 1 0 1)
        (JUMPE 1 DONE)
        (HLRZ 4 0 3)
        (CAIN 4 0 2)
        (JRST 0 TAG1)
        (MOVE 3 1)
        (HRRZ 1 0 1)
        (JUMPE 1 DONE)
        (HLRZ 4 0 3)
        (CAIE 4 0 2)
        (JRST 0 PC2)
TAG1    (HLRZ 1 0 1)
DONE    (POPJ P)
        NIL

Incidentally, this message is stored on HJSJMC.LTR[L,HJS] .  

                               Hanan, 

∂24-OCT-75  1624	1,HVA
I have added some notes to memo re David Luckam recomm. for 
appointment, and have replaced file folder in left-hand drawer
of table by window. If it's possible for you to produce the
missing parts, I will follow through on Monday.
∂24-OCT-75  1050	S,LES
We are reviewing ISI Tenex accounts with ARPA.  Do you wish to continue yours?
∂20-OCT-75  0701	S,LES
Hanan Samet is currently consuming vast quantities of CPU time and is
requesting that his disk allocation be restored to 1 million words.
He claims to be doing something important for you.  True?

As you may know, we are rather tight on disk space at present.
∂19-OCT-75  1759	ACT,REG   
If you're interested in preserving Nick Littlestone's files over
the NEXT purge, please copy the relevant ones to one of your areas.
∂19-OCT-75  1656	2,DCL
some theorem proving proposals are in AUTDED[ESS,JMC]

∂30-OCT-75  1509	100,100: queenie    
Ito called from Pasadena, he is attending USA-Japan Conference, he is coming up
here and would like to meet with you either monday afternoon around 2:30 or
tuesday morning (no specified time).  He will call back Monday morning ad 
and confirm which day and what time.  That's monday(11-3) tuesday(11-4).

∂28-OCT-75  2223	1,FXB @ AMET   
Preliminary parts list and prices for the Video Graphics Terminal:

96  2107   dynamic rams 12  3210   drivers                 67
 1  8080A  cpu                    150
 1  8228   system controller       16
 1  8224   clock generator         14
 1  8251   usart                   26
 1  6571l  character generator     20
 1  5320   sync generator          18
 1  5307   baud rate generator     18
 4  2708   8K PROMs 6
 4  2708   8K PROMs               384
 8  4200   4K static rams         136
70  misc   TTL                     70
 1         power supply           100
    misc   hardware(boards,soc)   200
-------------------------------------
            total                1891


Comments?

                          -Forest

∂28-OCT-75  1503	VCG,DCL   
I NEVER EVER LOG IN AS [ESS,JMC] OR PLACE COPIES OF LETTERS
FROM ME ON OTHER PEOPLES AREAS.
AN INTELLIGENT GUESS MIGHT BE THAT THIS IS DUE TO ONE OF THE 
SECRETARIES.
HAVE YOU SENT A MSG. TO THEM?

∂22-OCT-75  1130	1,HVA
IS THERE A DECISION ON STAN KUGELL YET - TO EMPLOY (SUPPLEMENTING
YOP FUNDS W/MONEY FROM YOUR UNRESTRICTED) - OR SHOULD I FILE AND
FORGET?

∂22-OCT-75  0517	100,100: AVRA COHN @ LONT
HELLO! JUST DOING SOME NET HACKING.  IM FINE AND HAPPY.  HOPE YOU ARE
TOO.  HI FROM MIKE GORDON AS WELL.  ----AVRA  
∂20-OCT-75  0940	FTP: host ISI  
Date: 20 OCT 1975 0936-PDT
From: RUSSELL at USC-ISI
Subject: Survey articles on AI
To:   les at SU-AI
cc:   jmc at SU-AI, russell


Les,

	I addition to everything else I have asked for, it would be 
helpful to have a small number of survey articles or reports which address
various reseqrch problems under investigation at Stanford.  In particular
an overview of FOL and the Natural Language work would be helpful.
Highly technical articles full of in-house jargon won't sell to well to 
management, hence my suggestion that the focus be on survey or
overview articles suitable for a more general audience.

	Will appreciate what you can provide.

	Dave
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∂19-OCT-75  2000	FTP: host ISI  
Date: 19 OCT 1975 1806-PDT
From: RUSSELL at USC-ISI
Subject: BASIC AI PROGRAM
To:   JMC at SU-AI
cc:   RUSSELL


John,

	Thanks for your answer.

	I ment the request for one or two lines or bullets to
apply to each individual entry at the fy level.

	Dave
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∂19-OCT-75  1750	ACT,REG   
Despite the purge message you have recieved, none of your files have been
deleted.  However, you are exceeding your disk allocation.  Please review
your files and delete any that you don't need.
∂19-OCT-75  1019	FTP: host ISI  
Date: 19 OCT 1975 1015-PDT
From: RUSSELL at USC-ISI
Subject: OUTLINE OF PLANNED BASIC AI WORK
To:   NEWELL at CMU-10A, PHW at MIT-AI, LES at SU-AI, FEIGENBAUM
cc:   BLUE, RUSSELL, CARLSTROM, CARLSON


	I am constructing an AI program plan that requires a section
devoted to proposed work in some structered format.  What
I plan to show is the basic AI program broken into three major
categories:

		Expert problem solving
		Natural language
		General reasoning

	I recognize that there is considerable overlap between the
three sections, and one could construct a more accurate division
containing two or three times as many divisions, however, it
will be considerably easier to explain and defend a manageable division
of the program.  What I would ask each of you to do is to fill in the
outline that follows with the appropriate information on the work
for which you are responsible.  I would prefer one or two sentence
milestone descriptions of your program plans showing a logical
progression of work as you see it now.  Obviously, near-term
goals can be described with resaonable accuracy, while longer-term
milestones are more general.

	EXPERT PROBLEM SOLVING

		MIT

		FY76 and FY7T program

		FY77 program

		FY78-FY80 program

		Feigenbaum

		FY76 and FY7T program

		FY77 program

		FY78-FY80 program

		CMU

		FY76 and FY7T program

		FY77 program

		FY78-FY80 program

	NATURAL LANGUAGE

		MIT

		FY76 and FY7T program

		FY77 program

		FY78-FY80 program

		Stanford

		FY76 and FY7T program

		FY77 program

		FY78-FY80 program

		Yale

		FY76 AND FY7T program

		FY77 program

		FY78-FY80 program

	FORMAL REASONING

		Stanford

		FY76 and FY7T program

		FY77 program

		FY78-FY80 program

		MIT

		FY76 and FY7T program

		FY77 program

		FY78-FY80 program

	Please note that vision work and automatic programming work
are now elements of the Image Understanding and Software Technology
programs respectively and are not considered as elements of the basic
AI program.  Also please avoid as much as possible jargon and the use
of the first person in your comments.  If you think that your work should be
included in other categories than are listed, please feel free
to add your work to appropriate category.

	I will provide a copy of the plan for your comments in the
next few days.

	I would appreciate your comments by Wednesday, 22 Oct 75.

	Dave
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∂16-OCT-75  1254	ACT,REG   
So, are you going to talk to John Leng on the 24th?   Do you want me to be there,
or will a list of questions suffice?
∂16-OCT-75  0234	S,LES
We are slated to have a visitation from the Computer Science Advisory
Committee on Monday morning, Oct. 20.  This group of distinguished
visitors provides advice to the Department on various policy questions.

The tentative schedule is
	9:00 am	Arrival: tour of the Lab., with a few demos
	10:00	Brief presentations on research projects by group leaders.
	10:45	Coffee & donuts
	11:00	More presentations and discussion.
	11:45	They head for lunch.

If you have suggestions or scheduling constraints, please let me know.
[I will have to leave about 11:15 to catch a plane.]

∂18-OCT-75  2315	FTP: host SRI  
Date: 18 OCT 1975 2314-PDT
From: OMALLEY at SRI-AI
Subject: Bay Area AI Circle Meeting 10/28
To:   BAAIC-People:




Members and Friends

Bay Area AI Circle



Greetings

It is time for yet another exciting Bay Area  Artificial Intelligence
Circle meeting.

For  those  of you  who  are new,  the  BAAIC is  a  group  of people
interested in all aspects of  AI who get together about once  a month
for  dinner  and discussion.  While  we are  an  exclusive  group, we
welcome anyone interested in AI to join.

This month Earl Sacerdoti of SRI has agreed to talk on his procedural
net  representation  of knowledge  for  use in  planning  and problem
solving.  In order to  provide balance and entertainment,  there will
be a  panel of  discussants.  Unfortunately,  the panel  members have
asked for anonymity in order to protect themselves from reporters for
the Chronicle and DATAMATION.

The meeting will be held at SRI on Tuesday, October 28. There will be
wine from 6:30 to 7:00,  dinner in the SRI international  dining room
at 7:00 and  the discussion in  the SRI auditorium  afterwards.  Cost
will be $6.50 per person.

Please let us know if you intend to come, either by phone or ARPANET,
before friday, October 24. There will be rides from  Berkeley leaving
at 5:15 from Evans Hall.

Mike O'Malley 642-4624 or OMALLEY@SRI-AI

Lotfi Zadeh 642-4959 (auto-answer phone)








                 A Structure for Plans and Behavior

                              ABSTRACT





     The  talk  will describe  progress  that has  been  made  in the

ability of a computer system to understand and reason  about actions.

A new  method of  representing actions within  a computer  memory has

been developed,  and this new  representation, called  the procedural
                                                           ←←←←←←←←←←

net,  has  been employed  in  developing new  strategies  for solving
←←←

problems and monitoring the execution of the resulting solutions.


     A set  of running  computer programs, called  the NOAH  (Nets Of

Action   Hierarchies)   system,  embodies   the   representation  and

strategies mentioned above.  Its major goal is to provide a framework

for storing expertise about the actions of a particular  task domain,

and  to  impart  that  expertise  to  a  human  in   the  cooperative

achievement of nontrivial tasks.


     The key ideas that will be explored in the talk include planning

at many levels of detail,  representing a plan as a  partial ordering

of actions with respect  to time, and execution monitoring  and error

recovery using hierarchical plans.




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∂17-OCT-75  0132	S,LES
Elaine Kant is here now and will finish the Program Understanding part
within an hour or so.  I've scanned the first part, which looks good.
I propose to ship it as soon as it is all together.

I forgot to mention that Dave Russell apparently called today and expects
to be out here next week.  He plans to be here Thursday afternoon from
about 3 to 5pm.
∂16-OCT-75  0554	S,LES
I just received a message from Russell saying he needs the
Accomplishments as soon as possible.  Perhaps we should send what we
have, with whatever polishing can be done straightaway.
∂16-OCT-75  0248	S,LES
Regarding the Bullets:  TW says that he has nothing significant to report,
their effort having gone into building foundations for a new system and
in proposal writing.  DCL claims that he will emit a blurb any moment now.
I'll push it into the file when it comes.  CCG has not been heard from.
I begin to get the impression that he isn't reading his mail.

Did you talk to Floyd about which new students need support?  This
question bears on how far we can stretch the budget to cover other
things.  There is also the related question of whether we can afford
to continue Martin Frost.
∂15-OCT-75  1312	IBM,DCL   
please let me know if you require any further paper work
from me for the adjunct affair. Perhaps i should go over
a checklist of items required with you before it goes
to the next stage (when is that?)
-david
∂15-OCT-75  0031	S,LES
If you would like to look at the ARPA blurbs, they are in BULLET[R,LES].
I still have only the formal reasoning and hand-eye parts.

I have a reservation concerning the latter: it comes on strong for RPV
applications in both the first and third paragraphs but doesn't make
the connection clear.  I am not convinced that there is a connection
that is close enough to be worth mentioning.

∂11-OCT-75  2351	FTP: host AI   
Date: 12 OCT 1975 0250-EST
From: CARL at MIT-AI
To: jmc at SU-AI

Thanks!
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∂11-OCT-75  1554	FTP: host AI   
Date: 11 OCT 1975 1852-EST
From: CARL at MIT-AI
To: CARL at MIT-AI, jmc at SU-AI

Hi John,
	I sent you a few quibbles about your IJCAI report which in general I liked
very much and think should be published.  My only concern was that you not
inadvertantly get some Russians in political hot water.  By the way what is a
"refusenik"?

			Cheers,

			Carl
-------

∂10-OCT-75  1357	AM,DBL    
I have read your statement about the 4IJCAI.
It seems to be accurate, and worded quite carefully to convey objectivity.
As for the Goldstein's tape, their only comment that you might want to know
about is their fear of reprisals and increased harassment (by KGB) as soon
as IJCAI ended and everyone went home.

A few tiny suggestions: the sentence about London, Stanford,... IJCAI sites
is hard to parse. The list of conclusions was drenched with technical metaphors,
and is comprehensible only to a scientificly-oriented audience (e.g., a scientific
journal, but NOT the N.Y. Times).  You might want to include a few quotes from
Lerner, Goldstein, Chav., Sandewall, or some US scientist who was there.
You might want to give the numbers of people who attented 4IJCAI, broken
into USA/USSR/other, perhaps also broken into student/faculty/professional.

Perhaps we should hold a seminar some afternoon, on our reactions/experiences;
all the local IJCAI-goers could come, plus anyone interested in hearing us.

Merle and I may have some of these people over to our house one evening, to
talk and show slides. If so, you'll certainly be invited. 

Cheers,
  Doug Lenat
∂10-OCT-75  0943	100,100: sgk   
Steve Mcreynolds of JPL robotics wants to talk to people on 7-nov. (will
be in area). 213 354-3784.
∂09-OCT-75  1728	FTP: host AI   
Date: 9 OCT 1975 2026-EST
From: PHW at MIT-AI
To: JMC at SU-AI

Hi John,

I have just read your Tblisi report and I find it quite good.  I make
only the following suggestions:

You say C said the G's could come if they behaved themselves.  This
seems stronger than I supposed.  In any event I thought the tone was
different from what those word suggest and I thought his feelings were
more along the lines of extending hospitality and hoping that the recipients
would not trod on that hospitality by turning a scientific meeting into a
political forum.

You also said that the G's were picked up a second time on Sunday.  Owing
to their Insistence that Bert not take lunch with them and to the 
possible divergence of their interests from
those of the community of dissidents, I personally  would be inclined to
insert the word allegedly somewhere before picked up.


Yours,
Patrick
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∂09-OCT-75  0825	CAR,HPM   
POWELL, Conoley and Hahn, Ottfried J.
"Propulsion System Optimization for Interstellar Probes",
Journal of the British Interplanetary Society, Vol. 26, No. 6,
June, 1973, 334-342.

POWELL, Conoley
"Propulsion System Optimization for A Single Stage Constant Thrust
Relativistic Rocket"
Journal of the British Interplanetary Society, Vol. 26, No. 8,
August, 1973, 466-474.



also of interest - there's a copy in your mailbox

POWELL, Conoley and Hahn, Ottfried J. and McNally, J. Rand, Jr.
"Energy Balance in Fusion Rockets",
Astronautica Acta, Vol 18, No. 1,
February, 1973, 59-69.



also of interest - I'll try to get copies tomorrow

POWELL, Conoley
"Parallel Staging for Starships",
Journal of the British Interplanetary Society, Vol. 27, No. 9,
September, 1974, 686-691.

POWELL, Conoley
"Optimal Exhaust Velocity Programming for an Energy-Limited
Single-Stage Relativistic Rocket",
Journal of the British Interplanetary Society, Vol. 27, No. 4,
April, 1974, 273-285.

ANDERSON, Gerald M.
"Optimal Interstellar Trajectories with Acceleration-Limited
Relativistic Rockets",
Journal of the Astronautical Sciences, Vol. 15, No. 6,
November-December, 1968, 313-318.

ANDERSON, Gerald M.
"Optimal Interstellar Trajectories with Thrust-Limited
Relativistic Rockets",
Journal of the Astronautical Sciences, Vol. 17, No. 2,
September-October, 1969, 65-79.



also of interest - perhaps you'd like to try to get copies

POWELL, Thomas C.
"Fusion Power for Interstellar Flight",
Ph.D. Thesis, Kentucky University - Lexington, Kentucky,
1970, 186 pages, available through NTIS (N71-38275 STAR abstracts).

DUNN, F.J.
"Optimal Interstellar Trajectories with Drag for Thrust-Limited Rockets",
AF Institute of Technology MS Thesis, GAM/MC/70-2, March, 1970.

ANDERSON, Gerald M.
"Relativistic Optimal Rocket Trajectories for Interstellar Travel",
Ph.D. Dissertation, Univ. of Michigan, December, 1966.

ANDERSON, Gerald M.
"Optimal Interstellar Relativistic Rocket Trajectories with both Thrust
and Acceleration Constraints",
Paper presented at 24th International Astronautical Congress,
Baku, U.S.S.R. October 1973.

ANDERSON, Gerald M., and Franklin, Rex W.
"Interstellar Drag and Its Effect on Minimum Time,
Acceleration Limited Relativistic Rocket Trajectories",
Paper presented at 20th International Astronautical Congress,
Mar del Plata, Argentina, October 6-10, 1969.
Selected Papers from 2oth Int. Astronautical Congress,
M. Lunc (Ed-in-Chief), Pergammon Press, New York, 1972, 497-505.



that exhausts Powell, Dunn and what's worthwhile of Anderson
in Forward's bibliography (also me).
∂07-OCT-75  1738	S,LES
To:   JMC, RWW, CCG, DCL, TW, TOB
1. It currently looks as though ARPA funding will continue at about the
present level for the next 18 months or so.

2. I have received the following message from Dave Russell (ARPA),
requesting a summary of recent accomplishments.  He needs them next
week, so I will need your input by Monday night, October 13.

3. We also owe them an annual report covering the period July '74 to
July '75.  I suggest that you fiddle the text of the last proposal. 
Absolute final deadline for your part is Wednesday, October 22.

-------
Les,	
	I need a summary of accomplishments for the
SU-AI program covering the current year.  Please consider the
following guidelines:
	
	1.  Avoid JARGON
	
	2.  Use the third person - i.e., the program has accomplished
rather than we have accomplished 
	
	3.  Pitch the summary at the scientific American level
	
	4.  Where an accomplishment is listed, particularly a
highly technical accomplishment, indicate why this accomplishment
is important.
	
	Dave/hcb
-------

∂08-OCT-75  1632	1,DEW
Did Michie have a computer chess conference in England this summer?
If so, do you know how it went and is their anything worth reading
that came out of it?   Thanks,  Dave

∂03-OCT-75  1053	FTP: host SRI  
Date:  3 OCT 1975 1052-PDT
From: RAPHAEL at SRI-AI
Subject: TBILISI REPORT
To:   JMC at SU-AI
cc:   PHW at MIT-AI, SACERDOTI, RAPHAEL, LES at SU-AI

John,
	Your report of IJCAI political events is excellent, and I think
it should receive wide circulation.  There are a few additional items
that I think should be added to it to help complete the picture:

	1.  Several Western participants in the Conference who were
deeply interested in the plight of Lerner and the Goldsteins were unaware
of the Tuesday morning agreement by the Conference organizing committee.
This perhaps unavoidable weakness in communications among concerned parties
led to later confusion and complications.
	2.  Soviet and Western observers, whatever their personal feelings,
were well aware of the fact that Lerner behaved is a statesman-like manner
and evidenced serious scientific interest in the proceedings of the
conference, while the Goldsteins evidently were more interested in
calling attention to themselves than in the subject matter of the 
conference, thereby weakening their potential support from both sides.
	3.  Aside from these political distractions, a surprisingly open 
East-West interchange took place throughout the conference.  Although
the amount of hard technical data exchanged was small, the scope of Eastern
activities in our field was an eye-opener to many Westerners, and the
many personal contacts that were established have significant potential
value in the future for both Science and Detente.
	4.  On the other hand, the operational problems of dealing with
the clumsy, inefficient, bureaucratic, Soviet state travel organizations--
Intourist, Aeroflot, and the Visa office-- were truly incredible to most
Americans.  Any organization considering holding an international 
meeting in the Soviet Union should seriously consider whether the
experience, which I still believe to be valuable, is worth the almost
unimaginable amount of extra time and energy that conference participants
will find themselves devoting to what should be simple practical 
arrangements.


	John, if you do not want to include something like the above in
your letter, I would not mind adding it as a postscript over my signature.
Of course, I would also like to hear Pat's opinion.  Also, I still have
in my possession a statement written by the Goldsteins chronicling their
version of events in Tbilisi, and would welcome your and Pat's suggestions
as to what to do with it.
		Regards,  Bert
-------

∂06-OCT-75  1124	1,TOB
I like very much your letter concerning the negotiations with Soviet
scientists for IJCAI.
Tom

∂30-SEP-75  2157	BPM,BPM   
John:  Lee Erman was wondering whether you had any "short piece on anything
at all" that could be included in the next SIGART Newsletter.  He mentioned
your collection of essays and that maybe you could pick one that is already
in fair shape and that would be appropriate to the SIGART readership.

∂30-SEP-75  2257	BPM,BPM   
To:   JMC, LES, CCG    
Pat Suppes and Bob Smith have OKed use of INTERLISP at IMSSS except for
9 am to 9 pm weekdays.  For FREE!

∂29-SEP-75  1637		network site AI
 Date: 29 SEP 1975 1937-EST
 From: RWG at MIT-AI
 To: jmc at SU-AI
 
 moses says ok if at most two consoles at once, and after 7pm pdt.
 jeff golden (jpg%ml) has teaching material and intimate knowledge of how
 novices confuse it.  i will speak to him when he returns on 1 oct.  ellen lewis
 has written some introductory stuff which, on very brief inspection, looked
 excellent.  i will purloin a few copies.  see you 6oct.
 -------
 

∂23-SEP-75  2004		1,RWG @ AI
 do you want me to ask moses about macsyma time?  if so, just what?

∂23-SEP-75  1157		network site SRI
 Date: 23 SEP 1975 1154-PDT
 From: BOYER at SRI-AI
 Subject: TOPOR'S VISIT
 To:   PROGRAM REASONING GROUP:
 
 RODNEY HAS ARRIVED AND WILL BE IN THE AREA FROM TODAY THROUGH FRIDAY.
 HIS TALK IS STILL SCHEDULED FOR 4:00 ON FRIDAY.
 -------

∂22-SEP-75  1241		1,PAW
 there is a faculty meeting scheduled for Friday, Sept 26 at 9 am in polya 204 to
 discuss Luckham

∂22-SEP-75  1231		network site AI
 Date: 22 SEP 1975 1531-EST
 From: CARL at MIT-AI
 To: CARL at MIT-AI, jmc at SU-AI
 
 Dear John,
 
 	I have read your report and in general like it very much.
 However, I do have a couple of small quibbles.
 First it is not clear that it is fair to report that the Soviet scientists
 personally object to the presence of Lerner as chairman of the panel.
 These conversations took place in private where the Russians thought that they
 could speak privately and frankly.  Your report may be a breach of this confidence
 even though Lerner somehow got wind of it and put it in one of his reports.
 Your report would be official confirmation.
 Dr. Chavchanidze is singled out to play a prominent role in your report.
 Your seem to give him personal responsibility for the immediate decision to
 admit Lerner and to do so with great courtesy.  The meeting the morning before
 the conference opened was private and may have been considered private by some
 of the participants.  In any case singling out Chavchanidze in this way could
 have unfavorable repercussions for him.  Perhaps some reference to the "local organizers"
 would be more appropriate.  I assume that you have checked your comments about the
 Goldstein brothers carefully.  Your account differs somewhat with one other
 fragmentary report that I received.  Again you single out Chavchanidze for special
 responsibility.  Do you think that he might consider his remarks on this matter to
 have been private?  This concludes my list of quibbles.  
 
 		Carl
 -------
 

∂22-SEP-75  1144		network site SRI
 Date: 22 SEP 1975 1140-PDT
 From: BOYER at SRI-AI
 To:   PROGRAM-REASONING-GROUP:
 
 			SEMINAR
 			   BY
 			RODNEY TOPOR
 
 			PROGRAM VERIFICATION BY CONTINUATION INDUCTION
 
 			FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 26
 			4:00 P.M.
 			S.R.I. 
 			INTERNATIONAL BUILDING
 			ROOM S103 (UEMURA ROOM)
 
 
 
 RODNEY TOPOR RECENTLY OBTAINED A PH.D FROM THE UNIVERSITY
 OF EDINBURGH WORKING UNDER ROD BURSTALL.  HE WILL BE VISITING
 THIS AREA FROM SEPTEMBER 25 UNTIL SEPTEMBER 30.  HE THEN LEAVES
 TO TAKE UP AN ACADEMIC POST IN HIS NATIVE LAND, AUSTRALIA.
 
 CONTINUATION INDUCTION IS BASED ON THE IDEAS OF SYMBOLIC EXECUTION,
 THE DESCRIPTION OF A GIVEN PROGRAM BY A VIRTUAL PROGRAM, AND THE
 DEMONSTRATION THAT THESE TWO PROGRAMS ARE EQUIVALENT WHENEVER THE
 GIVEN PROGRAM TERMINATES.  THE MAIN ADVANTAGE OF CONTINUATION INDUCTION
 OVER OTHER METHODS IS THAT IT ENABLES PROGRAMS USING A WIDE
 VARIETY OF PROGRAMMING CONSTRUCTS SUCH AS RECURSION, INTERATION,
 NON-DETERMINISM, PROCEDURES WITH SIDE-EFFECTS AND JUMPS OUT OF
 BLOCKS TO BE HANDLED IN A NATURAL AND UNIFORM WAY.
 
 -------

∂22-SEP-75  0859		network site SRI
 Date: 22 SEP 1975 0855-PDT
 From: BOYER at SRI-AI
 Subject: A TALK TO BE GIVEN BY RONEY TOPOR AT SRI
 To:   WEYHRAUCH at SU-AI, MCCARTHY at SU-AI
 
 
 WOULD YOU PLEASE ALERT EVERYONE AT SU-AI WHO MIGHT BE INTERESTED
 TO THE FOLLOWING:
 
 
 
 			SEMINAR
 			   BY
 			RODNEY TOPOR
 
 			PROGRAM VERIFICATION BY CONTINUATION INDUCTION
 
 			FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 26
 			4:00 P.M.
 			S.R.I. 
 			INTERNATIONAL BUILDING
 			ROOM S103 (UEMURA ROOM)
 
 
 
 RODNEY TOPOR RECENTLY OBTAINED A PH.D FROM THE UNIVERSITY
 OF EDINBURGH WORKING UNDER ROD BURSTALL.  HE WILL BE VISITING
 THIS AREA FROM SEPTEMBER 25 UNTIL SEPTEMBER 30.  HE THEN LEAVES
 TO TAKE UP AN ACADEMIC POST IN HIS NATIVE LAND, AUSTRALIA.
 
 CONTINUATION INDUCTION IS BASED ON THE IDEAS OF SYMBOLIC EXECUTION,
 THE DESCRIPTION OF A GIVEN PROGRAM BY A VIRTUAL PROGRAM, AND THE
 DEMONSTRATION THAT THESE TWO PROGRAMS ARE EQUIVALENT WHENEVER THE
 GIVEN PROGRAM TERMINATES.  THE MAIN ADVANTAGE OF CONTINUATION INDUCTION
 OVER OTHER METHODS IS THAT IT ENABLES PROGRAMS USING A WIDE
 VARIETY OF PROGRAMMING CONSTRUCTS SUCH AS RECURSION, INTERATION,
 NON-DETERMINISM, PROCEDURES WITH SIDE-EFFECTS AND JUMPS OUT OF
 BLOCKS TO BE HANDLED IN A NATURAL AND UNIFORM WAY.
 
 
 
 
 THANKS.
 -------

∂21-SEP-75  1914		1,RWG @ AI
 anyway, i am having a good time out here, but will come back
 before my excursion fare expires if you need me.

∂19-SEP-75  1347		PAP,REF @ CMUA
 You're welcome.  How was russia?


∂17-SEP-75  1218		BPM,BPM
 John: You might be interested in a report at the CS Library entitled "An Overview
 of the LBL Socio Economic Environmental Demographic Information System
 (SEEDIS)" by D. M. Austin, S. G. Kranz, and C. Quong.  Is this the system you
 were using the other day?

∂09-SEP-75  1555		100,100: patte wood @ SAIL
 a meeting at MIT Study of Future of Computing has been set up for
 Monday, Sept 22 from 9-1


∂15-SEP-75  1656		FOL,RWW
 the version of FOL on the system now contains the printing routines you
 requested. if there are any problems let me know.
 					rwww
 

∂12-SEP-75  1633		S,LES
 Just received a call from a fellow at the Hoover Inst. named Starr, I believe.
 He said that they have a prospective donation of 9 bookshelves full of Soviet
 literature on computers, cybernetics, etc. and said that you had talked about
 storing it here somewhere.  I said that we do indeed have space, but no
 bookshelves.  He plans to call back next Wednesday (Sept. 17) for confirmation
 of space availability.

∂12-SEP-75  1624		100,100: patte @ SAIL
 Dr. Hileman called and cancelled Sept 24 at 4:00, he will call again after Oct 8
 and reschedule.

∂09-SEP-75  0942		network site DMS
 DATE: 9 SEP 75 1053-EDT
 FROM: LICK at MIT-DMS
 ACTION-TO: McCarthy at SU-AI
 CC: Lick at MIT-DMS, Carlstrom at USC-ISI
 MESSAGE-ID: <[MIT-DMS]9 SEP 75 12:24:24-EDT.20432>
 
 	Very sorry, John, that I got away from ARPA without
 communicating adequately with you about your revised
 proposal.  Yesterday I talked with Dave Carlstrom about it,
 offering to do anything I could to facilitate matters.  He
 said that Dave Russell was working (on) it, correlating the
 several parts (related to different program managers in
 IPTO), but that Dave was on leave this week.  You will
 probably hear from one of the Daves next week.  If you do
 not, I suggest you call Carlstrom, who has the largest parts
 of the action.  I'll keep in touch with him and Russell, but
 the matter is in their hands, now, and I do not want to
 meddle much in the new management of the office, however
 much interested I remain.
 
 	Hope the AI Conference came off all right.  
 
 				Regards
 
 				Lick
 
 


∂27-AUG-75  0517		network site ISI
 Date: 27 AUG 1975 0517-PDT
 From: LICKLIDER at USC-ISI
 Subject: Reaction Cubed
 To:   McCarthy at SU-AI
 cc:   Licklider
 
 	By all means let's talk on the phone.
 
 	The problem is not whether DoD-supported AI should have a
 basic research core.  It is whether some of the support of basic AI
 research (all the support was for basic research, in the
 view of Lukasik and Heilmeier) should be diverted to make room for
 efforts in application and technology transfer.  Your putting it
 as you did (defending the retention of SOME basic research) just
 underscores the fact that the administrators and the researchers see
 things in such different ways that they are extremely difficult to
 mediate.
 
 	As for the importance of formal reasoning:  There is no question
 that it is important for the development of AI broadly.  The question
 is whether a large amount of it is what is needed to solve the
 DoD problems that AI has some chance of solving in the near term.  The
 whole situation is to be understood in terms of DoD's wanting to
 assess the capability oo the field to solve some of DoD's problems now.
 Almost everyone who has thought about the matter understands that it
 is penny-wise but pound-foolish to go overboard on
 pressing for immediate or near-term applications, that the real 
 importance of AI to DoD lies in the longer term possibility that ther
 may in due course be an advance in thinking to match the
 a weapons delivery and in explosive power.  But the pressure for
 near term applications is nevertheless a fact.    Not for 100 percent shift to
 applications, but for 30-40 percent.
 
 	Finally (for this note), this is a bad time for you to be
 thinking (or talking) about ceasing to administer the lab.  The
 reaction would be, indeed, something like "if the leaders of the field
 don't have any more committment to it than that, it is too risky for
 DoD to put so much money into".
 
 	My own assessment of the situation is that now is a time in 
 hry that needs the best contributions of a lot of people, including
 you, and that the situation might be a lot stronger in a couple of
 years.  The main chance is to bring NSF into the support of AI in a
 good way.  Please do not mess up the ARPA community just as we get
 started on fashioning some kind of arrangement with NSF.  But let us
 talk on the phone.
 
 				Regards
 
 				Lick
 -------

∂26-AUG-75  2300		PAP,SUZ
 	I AM SORRY THAT I COULD NOT SEE YOU AT THE LAB SO THAT I CAN
 SAY GOOD BY TO YOU.  I WILL LEAVE FOR CARNEGIE TOMORROW.  I APPRECIATE
 YOUR SUPPORT AND HELP DURING THREE YEARS OF STAY AT STANFORD.  I WILL
 COME BACK HERE TIME TO TIME, BUT BEST WISHES.         NORI